The huge pavement areas are also ugly, please give us some green. The 64-year-old architect is the go-to guy when it comes to circuit design.Hermann, who raced at German national level in the eighties with some success, has come in for much flak over the years. For now the cars are designed for these types of tires, but with the ground up restoration that is pending I would be shocked if Liberty and Brawn would want the same behaviour in 2 years as out of the current tires, when they will be trying to promote closer racing amongst drivers and teams closer to each other as well.I’m fine with degrady tires that force two stops per race, but they need to be tread wear degrady and not nearly so fickle.
I understand that’s business and politics but if there have to be new tracks at least make them unique, exciting, and challenging, rather than to comply with the demands of a modern race car.His solution to everything is a wide entry to a sharp corner, which creates generally boring and predictable passes. Plus FOM is, of course, reluctant to lose its substantial income streams from bridge-and-board advertising.What is your opinion of Hermann Tilke’s influence on Formula 1 track design and how it has changed over the years?Over the years safety standards have improved massively, As a result most traditional circuits have been redesigned to cope. Nothing beats DRS in creating boring, impossible to defend overtakes.
I think his early F1 designs were pretty decent (Sepang, Bahrain, Shanghai, Istanbul) but a lot of the later ones got very samey/always seemed to contain some odd corner combinations (along with his facination of creating off-camber corners all the time).Abu-Dhabi is still one of the most head scratching designs – Hairpin -> Straight -> Slowish Chicane -> Straight that narrows -> 90 degree left.He had nothing to do with Losail and the layout of Yas Marina was already done before he was hired.I keep this from the article: Not every F1 race has to be exciting. He doesn’t design tracks for F1 sport.
(TT of men) And yet nobody is complaining. The sad and worrying thing now, is that the younger generation today see a Tilke style circuit as the norm, and happily dream up their fantasy circuits with long straits, hairpins, and 90° turns. Tilke’s track designs have come in for criticism Hermann Tilke is a good friend with whom I enjoy spending time at grands prix, and I’m concerned that his work is often misunderstood. Classic tracks are often great because overtaking is exciting and sometimes challenging, not easy and abundant, and not non-existent.
It’s a short track, and everything’s done in a very effective way. How to do it, these all the things you have to think about, a lot of organisational things, and, and, and… And the traffic of course.”What sort of time frame is required to stage a street circuit once all formalities are in place? Seems like Herr Tilke bear the brunt of criticisms that should be better directed at deficiencies in the formula itself.
Sochi is another example – Tilke had to work with the infrastructure that was already largely layed out and planned for the Olympics (he did do Sochi, right? The same accident with a car at 60, nothing. I think it is going to take a different mandate by F1, and I think that will come with the major reg changes for 2021. @MacLeod.
In addition to that, you have factors which race cars don’t have to care about – for example, noise emissions is a fairly important factor for most road cars.Overall, he reckoned that developing a tyre for a typical road car was actually more challenging than developing one for racing, as there were actually more technical constraints and challenges in producing a road tyre than a racing tyre, and that the amount of technology that could be transferred from motorsport to road cars was pretty low.Maybe all races need to be wet races, however that is managed.F1 is loosing its attraction because it is not dangerous enough. The weaver?
I am not fundamentally opposed to single tyre supplier, but the intentional imposition of high degradation compounds is insane. One third is the building infrastructure needing for Formula One. They wanted a competitor along with them in F1.
Future Cars Worth Waiting For: 2021-2025. Tilke is approached to design and develop motor racing properties and facilities because they are really good at doing so, especially for facilities away from the circuit itself. Thus, the costs of annually building street tracks invariably exceeds the cost of constructing permanent circuits, which would in turn foster other types of motorsport in a region – a crucial factor in emerging motorsport markets.“For sure it is like this,” he agrees before pointing out that “street circuits have other advantages: events coming to the people, coming to the city, the atmosphere is unique in a city… we [F1] have now three street circuits. But you have also football games which are boring. With barriers closer, there’s less room for error, and the scenery is much closer to you, giving you the illusion of breakneck speed.They definitely have their advantages, especially now we’re using the safest Formula One cars we’ve ever seen.i like the old airfield design myself like Silverstone (the access road around WW2 era RAF runways).
Area : 874 Acres . Better than f1fansforeverSounds reasonable. Most owners demand that their circuit must accommodate cars of all types plus motorcycles…and in order to make everybody happy, hard compromises need to be made.I’ve always found it strange that amongst tire makers it’s a ‘war’ when we don’t call any other comparison in F1 a war, be it amongst drivers, cars, teams, power units etc. Sure, it’s no better than Mercedes domination, but do we really need another variable there?
I understand that’s business and politics but if there have to be new tracks at least make them unique, exciting, and challenging, rather than to comply with the demands of a modern race car.His solution to everything is a wide entry to a sharp corner, which creates generally boring and predictable passes. Plus FOM is, of course, reluctant to lose its substantial income streams from bridge-and-board advertising.What is your opinion of Hermann Tilke’s influence on Formula 1 track design and how it has changed over the years?Over the years safety standards have improved massively, As a result most traditional circuits have been redesigned to cope. Nothing beats DRS in creating boring, impossible to defend overtakes.
I think his early F1 designs were pretty decent (Sepang, Bahrain, Shanghai, Istanbul) but a lot of the later ones got very samey/always seemed to contain some odd corner combinations (along with his facination of creating off-camber corners all the time).Abu-Dhabi is still one of the most head scratching designs – Hairpin -> Straight -> Slowish Chicane -> Straight that narrows -> 90 degree left.He had nothing to do with Losail and the layout of Yas Marina was already done before he was hired.I keep this from the article: Not every F1 race has to be exciting. He doesn’t design tracks for F1 sport.
(TT of men) And yet nobody is complaining. The sad and worrying thing now, is that the younger generation today see a Tilke style circuit as the norm, and happily dream up their fantasy circuits with long straits, hairpins, and 90° turns. Tilke’s track designs have come in for criticism Hermann Tilke is a good friend with whom I enjoy spending time at grands prix, and I’m concerned that his work is often misunderstood. Classic tracks are often great because overtaking is exciting and sometimes challenging, not easy and abundant, and not non-existent.
It’s a short track, and everything’s done in a very effective way. How to do it, these all the things you have to think about, a lot of organisational things, and, and, and… And the traffic of course.”What sort of time frame is required to stage a street circuit once all formalities are in place? Seems like Herr Tilke bear the brunt of criticisms that should be better directed at deficiencies in the formula itself.
Sochi is another example – Tilke had to work with the infrastructure that was already largely layed out and planned for the Olympics (he did do Sochi, right? The same accident with a car at 60, nothing. I think it is going to take a different mandate by F1, and I think that will come with the major reg changes for 2021. @MacLeod.
In addition to that, you have factors which race cars don’t have to care about – for example, noise emissions is a fairly important factor for most road cars.Overall, he reckoned that developing a tyre for a typical road car was actually more challenging than developing one for racing, as there were actually more technical constraints and challenges in producing a road tyre than a racing tyre, and that the amount of technology that could be transferred from motorsport to road cars was pretty low.Maybe all races need to be wet races, however that is managed.F1 is loosing its attraction because it is not dangerous enough. The weaver?
I am not fundamentally opposed to single tyre supplier, but the intentional imposition of high degradation compounds is insane. One third is the building infrastructure needing for Formula One. They wanted a competitor along with them in F1.
Future Cars Worth Waiting For: 2021-2025. Tilke is approached to design and develop motor racing properties and facilities because they are really good at doing so, especially for facilities away from the circuit itself. Thus, the costs of annually building street tracks invariably exceeds the cost of constructing permanent circuits, which would in turn foster other types of motorsport in a region – a crucial factor in emerging motorsport markets.“For sure it is like this,” he agrees before pointing out that “street circuits have other advantages: events coming to the people, coming to the city, the atmosphere is unique in a city… we [F1] have now three street circuits. But you have also football games which are boring. With barriers closer, there’s less room for error, and the scenery is much closer to you, giving you the illusion of breakneck speed.They definitely have their advantages, especially now we’re using the safest Formula One cars we’ve ever seen.i like the old airfield design myself like Silverstone (the access road around WW2 era RAF runways).
Area : 874 Acres . Better than f1fansforeverSounds reasonable. Most owners demand that their circuit must accommodate cars of all types plus motorcycles…and in order to make everybody happy, hard compromises need to be made.I’ve always found it strange that amongst tire makers it’s a ‘war’ when we don’t call any other comparison in F1 a war, be it amongst drivers, cars, teams, power units etc. Sure, it’s no better than Mercedes domination, but do we really need another variable there?